Dettwyler is set to retire at age 92 after a long career helping clinical laboratories with their coding and billing systems
When William Dettwyler, MT, began working in a clinical laboratory, Harry Truman was president of the United States and scientists had not yet discovered the structure of DNA. Now, as he approaches his 92nd birthday in March, he is finally ready to retire from a career that has spanned more than seven decades, from bench work as a medical laboratory technician (MLT) to assisting labs with their medical coding and medical billing challenges.
Along the way, one of his coding innovations helped the State of Oregon save substantial sums in its Medicaid program. He also helped many medical laboratories increase reimbursement by correcting their coding mistakes. This from someone who left school after eighth grade to help on his family’s farm in rural Oregon.
In an exclusive interview with Dark Daily, Dettwyler discusses his long career and offered pointers for labs on improving their coding and reimbursement procedures.
Back in the 1980s, when he began his consulting work for labs, “they were very poor at billing,” he recalled. “Hospital billing staff didn’t understand lab coding. Reference laboratories didn’t do a good job of picking the right codes or even billing all the codes. Up until around the 1970s, hospitals didn’t even have to bill individual lab procedures with CPT codes. They billed with a revenue center code for all their lab services.”
These days “people are much more sophisticated,” he notes. “There are fewer coding problems compared to what it was in the 1980s and 1990s up to the 2010s.” However, he says he still has a handful of clients who call on his expertise.
“It was not unusual to go to a large university medical center and in three days tell the CFO on my exit review that the following year their lab would bring in about a half million more in revenue, just from my coding review. But I did not reveal to them that I had only gone to the eighth grade in a little one room school and was the lone graduate in my eighth-grade class,” wrote William Dettwyler, MT (above), owner of Codus Medicus in Salem, Ore., in an article he penned for Medical Laboratory Observer. For 75 years Dettwyler worked in the clinical laboratory industry. For much of that time he helped labs all over America improve their coding and reimbursement systems. (Photo copyright: LinkedIn.)
How It All Began
Dettwyler got his first taste of lab work in the early 1950s as a teenager washing glassware for a medical laboratory technician at a local medical practice. A few years later he completed an MLT program at Oregon Institute of Technology in Klamath Falls and landed his first lab tech job at a clinic in Portland.
His entry to consulting came in the early 1970s while he was working for a medical group in Salem. “I was helping the accounting personnel with their billing and noticed that Medicaid was not paying for a common test for syphilis that I was performing,” he recalled. “I contacted Medicaid, and they told me they didn’t understand laboratory procedures.”
After that, “they started to call me frequently with laboratory questions,” he said. “It wasn’t long before they asked me to help them on a part-time basis.” He also assisted with questions related to radiology.
By 1976, Dettwyler was devoting 35 hours a week to assisting the state Medicaid agency while still working as a lab tech.
Simple Hack Ends Overpayments
One of his career highlights came around 1981, when he discovered that the agency was overpaying for some pathology and radiology procedures by as much as 200%.
“Pathologists and radiologists are paid based on whether they are performing the complete procedure—the technical component and the professional component—or just the professional component, where they interpret the results,” he explained.
When billing for just the professional component, the physicians would add two digits to the standard code, so it might come in as 88305-26. However, the state’s computer system could only accommodate a five-digit code, so the state was paying as if the providers had done everything.
“The computer techs said the software couldn’t handle a seven-digit number in a five-digit box, so I devised a way for the computer to read the equivalent of seven digits,” he recalled.
His solution was to modify the codes so that the last digit was an alphabetic character. Instead of billing for code 88305-26, the physicians would bill for 8830F, and the state would pay them correctly.
Around that time, Dettwyler also began assisting a Medicare office in Portland. This forced him to cut back on his work as a lab tech. But he still worked around 60 hours a week.
“For most of my life, I’ve worked three jobs,” he said. “Work is my hobby.” He also had a large family to support—by 1976, he and his wife had 10 kids.
Transition to Lab Consulting
In 1986, the state was facing a budget shortfall and cut its Medicaid consultants, so Dettwyler decided to seek consulting work with labs while continuing to work at the bench.
“I really liked the coding because I had very little competition,” he said. “But I wanted to keep working in the laboratory mainly to understand the problems.”
While working for the state, Dettwyler attended coding seminars and workshops. He noticed that labs were losing revenue due to poor billing practices. “They didn’t understand all the coding complexities, so they really hungered for this kind of assistance.”
But first, he had to find clients. So he partnered with another lab tech who was offering similar consulting services.
Business picked up after Dettwyler contributed an article to the trade publication Medical Laboratory Observer about his process, which he calls “procedure code verification and post payment analysis.”
“That went like gangbusters,” he said. “We started getting calls from all over the country.”
Dettwyler later split from his partner and went to work on his own.
“I would sit down with the person who was responsible for coding, usually the lab or radiology manager,” he explained. “We would go over the chargemaster and cover every procedure to make sure the code and units were correct. When I was done, I would give them a report of what codes we changed and why we changed them.”
Beginning in 1989, he signed on as a contractor for another consultancy, Health Systems Concepts on the East Coast, where he remained until 2019.
Advice to the Current Generation
What is Dettwyler’s advice for someone who wants to follow in his footsteps and assist labs with their coding? “I wouldn’t recommend it now,” he said. “There’s less need for that kind of assistance than in the past.”
However, he does find that labs still run into problems. The greatest need, he says, is in molecular diagnostics, due to the complexity of the procedures.
In addition, labs are sometimes confused by coding for therapeutic drug monitoring, in which a doctor is gauging a patient’s reaction to a therapy versus screening for substance abuse. “Those issues are often misunderstood,” he said.
Microbiology also poses coding challenges, he noted, because of the steps required to identify the pathogen and determine antibiotic susceptibility. “It requires quite a bit of additional coding,” he said. “Some labs don’t understand that they can’t just bill a code for culture and sensitivity. They have to bill for the individual portions.”
Labs that work with reference labs also have to be careful to verify codes for specific procedures. “I’ll review the codes used by reference labs and, surprisingly, they’re not always correct. Reference labs sometimes get it wrong.”
If someone does want to become a coding expert, Dettwyler suggests that “they should first have experience as a lab tech, especially in microbiology, because of the additional coding. And they should try to work with somebody who is already doing it. Then, they should work with the billing department to learn how it operates.”
He also advises clinical laboratory managers to follow the latest developments in the field by reading lab publications such as The Dark Report. “You have to do that to keep current,” he said.
Despite never completing high school, Dettwyler eventually received his GED and an associate degree. “But the degrees didn’t really help me,” he said. “Much of it was on-the-job training and keeping my eyes open and listening.”
Encouraging the next generation of clinical laboratorians could contribute to solving current staffing shortages in the nation’s medical laboratories
This holiday season brings an exciting new gift that will catch the attention of Dark Daily’s readers. It’s a children’s book that introduces young readers to working in clinical laboratories!
“This is a steppingstone into the career of laboratory science, so we should share what we do with the world. Any lab scientist who has a child, niece, nephew, or grandchild in their life should give this gift. It could open an entirely new world of possibilities for them. It could make them excited for science,” said the book’s author Kelli Garcia, microbiology supervisor at Saint Francis Hospital and Medical Center, part of Trinity Health of New England, in an exclusive interview with Dark Daily.
“Most children have a small idea or image of what options are available in medicine or science—usually a doctor or nurse. They never see the people that work behind the scenes or different areas,” Garcia noted.
She penned her book with hopes of calling attention to medical fields beyond those most commonly seen by children, as she also had only learned about the field when she was graduating from college.
“I Want to be a Laboratory Scientist,” is now available at many major retailers, including Amazon and Barnes and Noble. (Graphic copyright: Kelli Garcia.)
Opening Children’s Eyes
Garcia’s journey took about four years from the moment she began writing to finally finding a publisher for her 36-page book that’s geared toward 6-8 year-olds. “I spent many hours writing and rewriting so it wouldn’t be too specific but also not too minimal that the point and purpose would be missed,” she said, adding that her daughter was her muse.
Garcia’s own children have excitedly brought the book to their schools and shared them with their local library. Such steps could help a field that is working hard to keep up with demand.
“There are so many ways to engage children in different areas of science as long as we make those areas known to them. They don’t all wants to be a doctor or nurse, but some still want to help in another way. This book will show them you can be in medicine helping people but behind the scenes—the unsung hero,” microbiologist and children’s book author Kelli Garcia (above) told Dark Daily. She added, “It will also make them aware that laboratory science is a rewarding career and show that it’s not just doctors and nurses who are involved in treating patients.” (Photo copyright: Kelli Garcia.)
Those low numbers are not going unnoticed. The Medical Laboratory Personnel Shortage Relief Act of 2024, introduced in September by State Representative Deborah Ross (NC-02), was created to help bring a much-needed boost to the field. The Act brought in grants for clinical laboratory staff training in accredited institutions and added “medical laboratory professionals to the National Health Service Corps,” the ASCLS noted.
The ASCLS continues to encourage those working in clinical laboratories to make their voices heard on Capitol Hill to further support the field.
Hope is growing that more students will choose clinical laboratory work for their futures. Medical and clinical laboratory technologist was listed in Careers Fittest rankings of the top 14 careers to consider in 2024/2025. Careers Fittest cited an 11% job growth expected in the area by 2031.
It is a worthy objective to educate younger children about the career path of a clinical laboratory scientist and opportunities to work in microbiology laboratories. Perhaps Garcia’s new children’s book will help with that trend, and just in time for the holidays!
Representatives from almost 50 different clinical laboratories, professional associations, and societies came together this week to align efforts to expand the supply and retention of qualified laboratory scientists
FORT WORTH, TEXAS—Last week, representatives from a broad cross section of clinical laboratories, lab and pathology associations, public health laboratories, and lab regulatory bodies gathered specifically to identify ways to expand the number of skilled lab professionals.
COLA organized the “Workforce Action Alliance Summit,” a one-day gathering of key clinical laboratory stakeholders who share a common interest in developing initiatives that would directly increase the number of individuals choosing to pursue a career in laboratory medicine.
This is not a new problem, as the lack of trained laboratory scientists across all scientific disciplines has been acute for many years.
In a communication sent to invited participants, COLA’s CEO, Nancy Stratton, and COO, Kathy Nucifora, described the objective of the summit, writing:
“Clearly a call to collective action is required if we are to address the impending clinical laboratory workforce shortage. The past three years have demonstrated the significance of a resilient laboratory infrastructure, not only for the daily care of millions of Americans, but also during the global pandemic. The numerous efforts currently underway to resolve the shortage are unquestionably a component of the solution. Many, however, believe that these efforts are insufficient to close the gap between the projected number of new entrants into the profession, the rate at which those currently in the profession are departing, and the future demand for laboratory testing.”
Robert L. Michel, Editor-in-Chief of Dark Daily’s sister publication The Dark Report was a participant at COLA’S workforce summit. The Dark Report regularly profiles clinical laboratory organizations that have developed innovative and productive initiatives designed to increase the number of students choosing to train as medical technologists (MTs), clinical laboratory scientists (CLSs), medical laboratory technologists (MLTs) and other skilled lab positions.
In materials distributed at the summit, the ongoing gap between demand for skilled lab professionals and the supply was illustrated thusly:
“The US Department of Labor estimates 320,000 bachelors and associates degreed laboratory professionals are working in the United States. If each of those professionals worked a standard 40-year career, the natural annual attrition of 2.5% would require 8,000 new professionals to maintain their current numbers. This exceeds the current output of accredited educational programs by more than 1,000 annually.”
Case Studies of Success
Over the course of the day, participants at the summit heard about the successes of certain laboratory organizations designed to get more students into training programs, supported by the educational courses required for them to become certified in their chosen area of laboratory medicine. These case studies centered around several themes:
Obtaining funding specifically to establish an MT/CLS training program to increase the number of candidates in a region. One example involved ARUP Laboratories and its success at working with a local Congressional representative to get a $3 million federal grant funded as part of a larger legislative package.
The medical laboratory scientist (MLS) program at Saint Louis University (SLU) worked with Quest Diagnostics to launch an accelerated bachelor’s degree program. The 16-month program combines online academic courses with intensive hands-on learning and clinical experiences in Quest’s Lenexa, Kansas, laboratory. The first students in this accelerated degree program began their studies in the spring semester of 2023.
By rethinking the structure of its existing didactic and experiential learning structure, NorthShore University HealthSystem’s MLS program, located at Evanston Hospital north of Chicago, doubled its enrollment capacity.
During the afternoon, working groups addressed ways that lab organizations can collaborate to increase recruitment and retention of laboratory scientists across all disciplines of lab medicine. This input was synthesized into action planning for the three priorities that can lead to expanding the lab workforce.
By day’s end, several working groups were organized with specific next steps. COLA is taking the lead in managing this initiative and giving it momentum. All clinical laboratory professionals and pathologists are welcome to participate in the Workforce Action Alliance (WAA). Anyone wishing to learn more can contact COLA by clicking here, calling 800-981-9883, or by visiting https://education.cola.org/contact-us-page.
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